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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10   #21
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I am an optimist.

I like to think they will take all that they learned from GW, all that went right and all the mistakes they made along the way, and create a truely AWSOME game......but I could be wrong.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16   #22
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I hate the idea, honestly. From what I've gathered, GW2 is going to be an all-out grindfest, just like WoW, DAoC, EQ2, and all the other MMOs.
If it becomes it then we will all know that most of the old players will stop playing it.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16   #23
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Doesn't this completely depend on the content? I realize they've said about what they want as an ideal Guild Wars 2, but who knows if it'll be like they've portrayed before. Guild Wars 2 could be the best step ever, depending on what they do..or it could be the worst choice ever. We'll have to see.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19   #24
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I'm thinking of moving away from guild wars, the recent changes have not sat well with me. Mainly the ridiculously overpowered PVE skills and the lack of any response whatsoever from anet despite the outcry from the community from numerous fansites.

Guild wars 2? I think not...

Maybe a move to a pay per month mmo is the way forward, support or answers tend to be more forthcoming...
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25   #25
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I like Guild Wars.

I imagine I'll like GW2, though there's no way to know until it comes out. However, the no-monthly-fee business model kicks so much ass that I'll likely buy it anyway.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:50 AM // 00:50   #26
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From the little I know about Utopia, I believe it was another campaign/expansion. Since players have been complaining about the difficulty of dungeons and the unfairness of Ursan and the elitism of people excluding people based on low reputation ranks...

I think I'll be glad when GW2 is released.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:50 AM // 00:50   #27
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I like it so far...But i'm gonna assassinate the dev team if the higer lvl cap isen't cosmetic -_-'
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53   #28
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I'm neither happy nor unhappy with the idea of it at the moment; it's just another game that I might play when it arrives. Plus it's hard to develop any sort of overall opinion seeing as they won't bloody tell us anything about it. Grrr.

I'm unsure about the idea of persistent worlds, as things like kill-stealing, looting, leeching, griefing and spawn-camping come to mind.

Also unsure about racial traits, and the possible idea that you'll need to roll a certain race in order to play a certain class because of the benefits that race has.

The supposed story doesn't really grab me at the moment either. This is mostly because I'm a big fluffy girlpants and wanted Ascalon to be all re-built and nice and pre-searing-esque again. *sigh*
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11   #29
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utopia.
wont be getting gw2 dont like 90% of what they are going to change (and I dont NEED to swim/fly/z axis stuff)....
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20   #30
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The concept of GW2 is OK, but im very wary because I fear anet will #$ck it up just like EOTN.

Basically, they're on my not so cool list, but i cant make any solid arguments or accusations till they RELEASE SOME BLOODY INFO ON IT ALREADY!

We still have no friggin idea how classes, consistent worlds, 2ndary classes, races, skills, etc... will work!


EDIT: This is the kind of post that should have come up BEFORE anet planned to make gw2.

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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06   #31
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They lost me at persistent world.
I'm sure Anet have said persistent areas, not world.

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Are we to go to a system where we must constantly chase the next "uber" item (which is how I gather WoW works) in order to be a more effective player?

No thanks.
Not read anything about this, but I'll second that 'no thanks' anyway.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10   #32
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if i wanted a game that sounded exactly like WoW, id buy wow

ill probably still buy gw2 anyways
Well, GW2 will have way better graphics than WoW and you won't have to pay a subscription fee. To tell you the truth, these two reasons are why I bought GW instead of WoW.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14   #33
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i think itll be ok. but i dont like the higher level cap i just quit WoW for GW... not its like going back to WoW again...

the entire concept of guildwars was to make a game where level and skill was not baised on amount of hours played.. now thier throwing that out basically
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14   #34
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I'm excited.

I want to play a Charr and like threaten to eat my human friends/guildies *gets hot sauce*

What I've heard about Utopia, I'm intrigued about the story line. I would like it if they would share more about it.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18   #35
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I'd rather have GW2. Fresh start new game. Utopia may have been fun, but it was scrapped so we didn't get to see much. Best to just move on instead of wondering what could have been.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29   #36
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MMOs are lame. Persistent world = spawn camping which is lame. High level cap = forced grind which is lame. These are the things GW was sold on NOT being, and these are the reason I bought it. If I WANTED to play WoW, I would PLAY WoW (well, actually I wouldn't play WoW, since I hate the ugly graphics and the way it completely massacred the Warcraft storyline, but I'd play one of the million MMOs out there).

To answer the question: Yes, I would prefer a new game over Utopia. GW1 has too many flaws to be fixed in the game as it is. But GW2 isn't that game. GW2 is Generic MMO #542.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33   #37
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i just want me some persistant worlds and huge battles!!!

gw2 ftw.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34   #38
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I'm on my toes for GW2 as GW1 has nowhere to go but down from here.
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MMOs are lame. Persistent world = spawn camping which is lame. High level cap = forced grind which is lame. These are the things GW was sold on NOT being, and these are the reason I bought it. If I WANTED to play WoW, I would PLAY WoW (well, actually I wouldn't play WoW, since I hate the ugly graphics and the way it completely massacred the Warcraft storyline, but I'd play one of the million MMOs out there).

To answer the question: Yes, I would prefer a new game over Utopia. GW1 has too many flaws to be fixed in the game as it is. But GW2 isn't that game. GW2 is Generic MMO #542.
You have no idea what the game is going to be like, the persistent areas could end up having no enemies at all, and could just be larger explorable hubs like towns are today. They already stated dungeons and missions would be instanced, which means the "phat lootz" shouldn't be campable. And they said that the high level cap would most likely be aesthetic.
Don't jump to conclusions about a game that hasn't been released, or even previewed yet.

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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44   #39
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I'd rather have had a game I would play (Utopia) than a game I won't buy (GW2 - a true MMO with a persistent world, high level cap, and twitch-based skill system).
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53   #40
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I'm extremely happy. About time we got some persistence and hopefully they do have mobs so I can laugh at all the people who think it equals spawn camping and kill stealing because they're ignorant of how it can be prevented because they don't play the right games.

That's all I'll say for the time being as none of us really know what it's going to be like, but this old claim of persistent areas is really annoying.
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